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durbin, democratic senator from illinois. he is very close to the president. he is introduced him at every major political event since he came into public office from illinois. he will have a press conference today. he is going to make a speech that says medicare and medicaid should be looked at but not part of the fiscal cliff negotiations. so if that is the case you change that at all right now? >> let me say this. i know that we have people out posturing and again we have all kind of folks that just want to sweep this under the rug and let the problem get even bigger. the fact is the two most important people are the president and speaker boehner. both of them in the beginning of this have shown a degree of flexibility. what we need to do, people like myself offer concrete solutions to solve this problem. when they get in their meeting they need to have these at their disposal and we as a country again need to go ahead and deal with this issue now. i know that senator durbin actually has shown some strength for what it's worth, i don't know what he will do today in his press co
with dick durbin who came on the show because eric said, okay, we'll do deals on taxes, but you brought up capital gains tax, no. carried interest, no. raising the actual marginal rates, no, we don't want to do that yet when he left we got calls from democrats saying does he really want to make a deal? >> i got two yesterday that -- >> i got e-mails from democrats going wow, he sounds like he wants to make a deal. one senator said did he really mean what he said? considering that he said nothing, yeah, i guess so but it was the tone then yesterday dick durbin came on and we had to basically stop asking about medicare about three or four minutes in because it was nonsensical talking about creating new programs. but this is a guy that also supporting simpson bowles and let us know like eric, we'll make a deal and figure it out. >> both sides at various times tells you something about recent history. you think about where republicans were a year and a half ago, where their attitude was, no, we will not discuss revenues, not one penny, ever, ever, ever so for cantor to say, of course, we'll di
and it hasn't worked. megyn: it's an interesting shift we're seeing. dick durbin said look at the disparity between what a navy seal earns and a hedge fund person earns. it's not fair, moral or right. is that the society we live in in which income, equality is required for us to believe we are living morally? >> that is the issue of fairness, isn't it? surely what we want is growth, growth is fair to everybody. growth reduces the deficit, growth reduces the unemployment rate, growth gets people back into houses of their own. without growth you're nothing. enough with this income inequality, the shift to the left, you've really got to liberate private enterprise if you want to have real fairness. megyn: here we thought chris after november 6th we won't be talking about campaign ads, billboard buys or bus advertisements and we were wrong. >> we were wrong too bad. megyn: all right guys, see you soon. we are also watching a tense situation developing today in egypt. what we're told is a volatile of mix of protestors gathered to denounce a recent power grab by their democratic leader. earlier w
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